65-66 and Fed-67. I am not sure anyone will ever quantify the exact number of suicides. After all these past years, Ive never left country,took me years to live again. Crazy shit. Glamunyon@aol.com. Do you think there shouldnt be any baggage there? Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? Everytime there is a major airline crash in the news, we email it to each other and joke that would have been US if we kept flying. Back in the States, Langenus quickly discovered the GI benefits available for Vietnam veterans were almost nonexistent. While living in New York, he developed symptoms of malariaa tropical disease fairly uncommon in the concrete jungleyet he was denied VA health care because he didnt display those symptoms in Vietnam. Local boards called men classified 1-A, 18-1/2 through 25 years old, oldest first. Be careful of Appeals. you guys read to many bullshit books!!! Tragically, though, many veterans have since died waiting for their approval and related benefits. Except for one, we were all medics. Deeds need to be done in addition to words, says Wowwk, who is 100 percent disabled from his Vietnam wounds. 2023 A&E Television Networks, LLC. returned from Vietnam , the clock has been ticking. Combat Medic have served in-country was: 9,492,958. I don't know about you guys, but it kind of gives me the chills. You posted this on September 2nd. Vietnam for two tours. Guy C. Lamunyon Less than half of them submitted claims for service-related benefits, mostly because they were not aware of a possible connection to Vietnam. You must (with very few exceptions) have a high school diploma. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? If true, 390 VN vets die a day so in 2,190 days from today, Like I always said .we died in Nam , just havent fallen over yet.Too bad all the imposters dont die just as quick or quicker. I was a Medic with the 93rd Evac. At the same time all my friends whom never served had good jobs and new cars etc. Went looking for a new job,on foot walking many miles every day,but when they foung out that i was a vietnam veteran they would not hire me.Some would ask if I was a Drug addict 0r killed people etc. Look upon myself as a well We built houches in 1967. What amazes me however is that so many of my comrades who served in Vietnam and who suffer from many of the maladies associated with this war would serve again. It was apparently based on an estimate that 800,000 Vietnam-era veterans had died by 2000. Pretty hard to quantify those one car accidents at 2am, from the smell of diesel. The official VA figures for surviving vets of the Viet Nam era show 81% to still be around; the percentage for those who served in Viet Nam is slightly lower, due first to the fact that 58,000 died there. I am an in country vet and 59 years old, your article wasvery informative. I was transfered to the 201st aviation co. in Nha Trang in 1972 to finnish my tour . We could not understand getting letters from school kids, says Langenus, also a veteran of Desert Storm. He would not comment on the findings, but said everyone who tested positive was notified. No 'Welcome Home' parades for Vietnam vets. WWII and Korean War vets. It is believed that there were 58,318 casualties among United States soldiers alone. I never went to the VA, but Im gonna try, and they will probably fight me, but they want to give illegals health insurance. V.F.W. Semper Fi. Brault CIB air medalan dall that. We were driving home from the airport when I heard the news. December 27, 2018 (aged 112 years, 230 days) Austin, Texas, U.S. Oliver Stone. The ages of those who served in Vietnam varied anywhere from 55 to 97 years old. You dont have parades for soldiers coming home from a war they lost.. "It was surprising," he said, stressing the preliminary results could include false positives and that the research is ongoing. (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. served in-country . What amazes me however is that so many of my comrades who served in Vietnam and who suffer from many of the maladies associated with this war would serve again. Today the list still grows in our local newspaper, MarDivPhoto on Oct 9, 2009 refers to the American War Museum website, and mike_brewer on Oct 12, 2009 refers to the Vietnam War Museum, both as the source of the number 850,000 living Vietnam veterans. Check out the VA web-site and your local Vet Center. Still listen to 1960s rocknroll and those songs take me back to the Mekong Delta Walker another 4 year RA, he left Germany volunteered for Vietnam, assigned to The Current Situation Regarding the Missing and Unaccounted for American Service Members Who Were Killed in Vietnam. Mike why is gods name would all these people claim to have went to that septic tank they call vietnam? By June, Wowwk had been wounded twicethe second time seriouslyand was sent back to the United States for treatment at Bostons Chelsea Naval Hospital. Alcohol induced psychosis and death from toxicity is not suicide, or is it? C.I.B. best regards. Vallo All my Vet friends died from suicide, cancer, heart attack (drinking themselves to death). What was the average age of a US combat soldier in Vietnam? 24 They were not necessarily looking for a parade, but they were certainly looking for basic human support and help in readjusting to civilian life after this really brutal war.. I went back to work (with Government Defense Contractor)where I worked before entering service and was laid off after 1 month.Went to VA rep who did nothing about it,but then sent me for a job as an exterminator.went off on him and asked was this supposed to be closest civilian related occupation. According to the DVA 490,135 in country Vietnam Veterans died during the years 2000-2007 and that translates to approximately192 per day. all the best from life. Even though I served 7 months on an A-Team, I wasnt eligible for the flash because I got my CIB BEFORE I was assigned to the group. Might any of our readers speculate about why this may be? Ant help would be greatly appreciated. Div. so in 2190 days.from today, lucky to be a Vietnam veteran alive. Criteria for Eligibility Lost a friend after a going away party when he took one last flight the day after the party. There is no way that 69% of those who served are now dead, as is easily noted by the unit reunions that occur and the personal circle of other vets than many vets have. I feel confident they will take care of you now. Return to country Jun 1969-Apr 1970 I Field Forces Vietnam. I would like to see how much that differs from the civilian population and are they no. please pardon the French. and welcome home to all my brothers. Astonishing! Some, like Wowwk, say they had invectives hurled their way; others, like naval officer Ford Cole, remember being spit on. Please post the SOURCE of this statistic. we better make it soon . Veterans returning from Vietnam were met with an institutional response marked by indifference. No way of accounting for one car accidents either. As of the year 2015, around 1,600 of those individuals were still considered unaccounted for. The Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency (DPAA), which is part of the United States Department of Defense, reports that there were a total of 687 American prisoners of war who survived the Vietnam War. But the specter of Vietnam still lingers, and some of that wars veterans view such acts with a wary glance. The figures reported here (and the same text is widely seen) are all correct with one major exception. RAa Regular Army, those that enlisted with some draftees, When I returned in Vietnam veterans are dying at the rate of 390 deaths each day. I showed this to a non vet to see if I was not clear (PTSD) and he was shocked at the number of Nam Vets who were passing away. Ach, the memories. "I didn't think it would be me.". I was spat on in Chicago in Lincoln Park in 1969. They may look appealing but can actually take up to 5 years to schedule a hearing. In any case, we who served our country continue to die on a daily basisin greater and greater numbers. not too many left, Vietnam Veterans Dying Breed. He graduated from Notre Dame prior to being commissioned, and after his service returned to law school to cash in his educational benefits. "I've personally dealt with muscle loss, neuropathy and atrial fibrillation. For those who believe that the stories of being spit on and being called baby killers and other injustices is crap than you are living in a dream world. Statistics show that at least five men killed in Vietnam were sixteen years old, and at least 12 were seventeen years old. That takes courage to return to war, or maybe they wanted to get out of a statside armpit like I did when reassigned to Fort Lewis, Washington He and I just emailed each other on Jan. 2, 2011. Lincoln, Nebraska is where I call home. 101st Airborne 1971 God bless you guys for your sacrifice. I had 6 close buddies in Vietnam. Welcome Home John. But for claims, I have found the DAV (I have to join) to be a real kick ass outfit. I work with veterans all the time and thought you might find it interesting (if you didnt know already) that any Vietman Vet who served in country and who develops Parkinsons Disease, Lou Gehrigs disease, or a number of other illnesses is assumed tohave been exposed to Agent Orange and AUTOMATICALLY qualfies for Service Connected Disability. Some pilots, career men and members of elite units may have been much older. Semper Fi to your hubby. Jun. I dont have any but ONE Viet Vet friend still alive, he and I served in Marines 1st marine Airwing, 1967 at Da Nang Air Base and left the day befor TET offensive started Jan 1, 1968. THERS IS ONLY ONE KIND OF COMBAT VET..ONEWHOWAS IN COMBAT. Median age is 68 years. It is anticipated that the overall number of veterans would fall from 20.0 million in the year 2017 to 13.6 million in the year 2037. The disability compensation that some veterans get from the VA is factored into the average for veterans. Required fields are marked *. The past 5 years has seen a ton of so called veteran statistics that are clearly confabulated. Age: 75. If you read the Taps in their mag there seems to be an alarming rate of NamVets dying in theirlate fifties and early sixties. Thanks Jim, that was very thorough. I may be able to help you with your claim. Im a former member of the 173rd Abn Bde-First (Army) in VNam from The Rock Do you have any statistics on how many of the so called BWN vets are coming down with AO related presumptive diseases. i cam back from nam in july of 70 all my decorations and cbi badge and never heard or spit upon, i think a lot of this is bullshit!!! Hi Mike, the word from the rear was we werent authorized cib. i got sent to viet nam in the spring of 71 and came back in the spring of 72. my mos was 82c20, surveyor. Both are unlikely to life to 70, and both have suffered life-threatening diseases already which they are lucky to have survived. This is hard to believe, Thanks for your added comment I was in Artillery had my hands on a lot of weapons from the 105, 155, 175mm guns up to the 8inch Howitzer, and all the other weapons in between. The last Vietnam Vet will die in 2047. It was Bob Kerrey. I was a aircraft sheetmetal repairman. The reporting found that about 700 veterans with cholangiocarcinoma have been seen by the VA in the past 15 years. Where is the museum and website referred to as the source of the figure 800,000 living Vietnam veterans? The Vietnam veterans, we couldnt believe it. That often precedes an Appeal. At this rate there will be only a few of us alive in 2015. one thing they have mentioned is verified stressors. Yes the war was not popular but we did go and do our duties we were trained to do. Scientific Wild Ass Guess. As of 2015 approximately 16,000 17-year-olds were being enlisted annually. Im going to put that review officer in my shoes as a 20 y/o medic. Strapped to a gurney in a retrofitted bus, Wowwk and other wounded servicemen felt excitement at being back on American soil. Working on a story for my veterans paper at my website and found your blog on this subject. (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. Im a member of the Vietnam Veterans of American. we went to the 1st sargent and he said ok. i went out for 7 or 8 mo. An overwhelming majority of Vietnam Veterans are male (6.2M) while in the civilian populaon females (47.7M) outnumber males by 20.5M. Since 1988, The War Library has been making efforts to confirm the names of all United States military personnel who served in Vietnam or who were awarded the Vietnam War Service Medal. This figure far exceeded the expected suicide ratio when balanced by demographics and applied to ONLY those that had served in country. Rather than being greeted with anger and hostility, however, most Vietnam veterans received very little reaction when they returned home. The number of Vietnam veterans affected by the chemical Agent Orange is astonishing. Still, it seems to me that Vietnam veterans who were junior enlisted men or junior officers have died in larger than average numbers already compared to their non-veteran peers, and are likely to continue to do so. In the United States 17-year-olds may join the armed forces with the written agreement of parents. Everything else is pure bullshit..1969-1970 GRUNT 11 bravo in the jungle..and damn PROUD of itSCREW ALL THE FAKERSNO MAN ENOUGH TO BE TRUE. when i arrived at my unit, 2/11th acr, how battery, a scruffy looking latino guy who happened to be back in the rear, convinced me, i needed to volunteer to go out to e-troop, in his stead, (hed already been out there 6 mo. Then, on March 10, 2010 the Secretary makes a statement detailing a new plan to automate AO filings that will speed up the process. EM Club after that, I never saw Walker again. Two of my long-time friends are in-country veterans. We saved a lot of people and seen some bad stuff. Can you provide more information on this? The odd thing, I was at Tripler Hospital today and learned something interesting. Can I cut apples the night before for apple pie? It is anticipated that the overall number of veterans would fall from 19.5 million in the year 2020 to 13.6 million in the year 2048. It may precede a counter-appeal. We flew to Okinawa, and during the flight on Flying Tiger airlines from Okinawa one of the four engines stopped, we had to make a emergency landing back at Okinawa. He immediately scheduled further tests, discovering he had two cysts on his bile duct, which had the potential to develop into the cancer, known as cholangiocarcinoma. Ive been filing for years without luck despite having cardiac bypass surgery in my 40s and repeated stent implants, etc., etc., since then. During this Census count, a huge number of Americans falsely claimed to have Very good but alarming article. Hometown: Vega Baja, Puerto Rico. As a combat veteran of Marine Corps having served in Vietnam, I have always known that we seem to have a mortality clock that ticks a bit faster than then that of the standard for insurance actuaries. results. I remember feeling like, what could I do to acknowledge them, and I just gave the peace signal, Wowwk says. I take ware hearing aids and to this day Im always vigilant when Im out always Looking for people who served in the 134th assault helicopter co. from 1971 to 1972. There is only ONE KIND OF VIET NAM VET,,ONE WHO WAS THERE. I believe they may be using no. The false number of 850,00 originates from the phony website of the American War Museum, which disseminates much false information for reasons only its manager (it is a one-man operation) might know. Mike Baughman holds a 1971 photo of himself in his U.S. Army uniform at his home in Danville, California on Aug. 2, 2016. We read this article at our last meeting thanks again. "Of the 2,709,918 Americans who served in Vietnam, less than 850,000 are estimated to be alive today, with the youngest American Vietnam veteran's age approximated to be 54 years old." I went fucking ballistic. The average man who fought in World War II was 26 years of age. Finally after 10 months found a job,human resources person said that they didnot mind hiring Vietnam Veterans .as long as I was not drug addict or involved in any war attrocities. got rocketed big time because it was the start of the TET offensive. ) No it does not mean that you are not a combat veteran. Hi Mike. She was right. Have you tried to apply? You must be at least 17 years old (17-year-old applicants require parental consent). Answer (1 of 4): Background During the 1980s, the postservice mortality component of the Vietnam Experience Study was conducted to examine the health effects of the Vietnam experience. Gerry Wiggins, who served in Vietnam from 1968 to 1969, has already lost friends to the disease. So few can imagine that we were really sprayed with chemicals and had to live with the year of VA Denial. i was in a compound & seen them spraying and the next day everywhere they sprayed was brown. Age 67. tell me what you think about the article I just wrote about former Senator Alan Simpson, at TucsonCitizen.com His comments about Agent Orange victims are going to keep me up nights! Vietnam veterans are reaching a point in their lives where they may be retired, losing the past support systems of family and friends, susceptible to depression and prime candidates for. There does seem to be some amorphous time clock inside the Vietnam Veteran. does not receiving a cib mean im not a combat vet? It is believed that less than 850,000 of the 2,709,918 Americans who served in Vietnam are still living today; the age of the youngest American Vietnam veteran is around 60 years old. M c Clurg, Ernest H. Some of it came from a VFW Post. IE 11 is not supported. Any way you cut it, the saga of self- destruction was frequent and very, very sad. This article highlights the eligibility criteria and important information for filing a claim for benefits. Then compare that report to the Tripler Psychologist report of a (get this) 5 minute interview. I have been attending my unit Reunions since 1990, and at least 40 % of our Unit is deceased. It wasnt a bad idea at all, as Ive learned everything on the Kinah making aspect in this game. They are getting old, as time passes away from history those part of it become history themselves. Did not know his name but I couldnt bring myself to walk by his A/O after this happened. The only qualifier may be that there is a misunderstanding about what In Country means. (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. The collective emotion of the country was divided, says Jerry Lembke, a Vietnam veteran, sociologist and author of The Spitting Image: Myth, Memory, and the Legacy of Vietnam. I am ex medic one-oh-worst airborne div. Vietnam Veterans of America/ Vietnam Veterans Die Early/ Epidemiology for Vietnam Veterans/ Agent Orange Deaths, http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/c2kbr-22.pdf, http://edschultz.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=63544, http://web.mac.com/rthorne2/Site/TRUTH_REVEALED_MINISTRY.html, Transcendental Meditation Retreat At Picture Rocks Retreat House, Veterans Across America Black Out Walmart Black Thursday. have my Library and collection of movies, my garage and my dogs and cats. ps Required fields are marked *. Heres the rub. "Personally, I got what I needed, but if you look at the bigger picture with all these other veterans, they don't know what necessarily to do," he said. I was nearly arrested for trying to defend my honor and service against that idiot. Vietnam was a lost war, and it was the first major lost war abroad in American history, Lembcke says. 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